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Post by sloopy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:14 am

just where did Savannah fit into all this, I either missed them, or they arent listed

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:27 am

they aren't listed for some reason

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Post by Jeffrey Hill » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:16 am

Tell me about it... I was a little worried when I didn't see them in Class 3 District 8 where they probably are (because if they ever move back up to Class 4 they're going to be in the same district as Liberty). Last year, WCA had a larger population than them, and if Kyle's correct these districts should be based off of the same numbers as last year. They're probably in Class 3 District 8 but then again I could be wrong.

TMCE: Was Viburnum in Richland's district last year?

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:19 am

yes Vib, Eugene, and Richland were in the same district

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Post by KentB » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:53 pm

Class One
District 1: Saxony Lutheran
District 2: TJ
District 3: St. E
District 4: Pilot Grove
District 5: No Clue
District 6: Again, no clue
District 7: .....
District 8: St. Joe


Class Two:
District 1: Bernie
District 2: Richland
Disctrict 3: N/A
District 4: South Shelby ?
District 5: Fordland .. although it's tempting to pick Clever hehe
District 6: McAuley
District 7: Barstow
District 8: No clue... goooooo lathrop lol



Class Three:
District 1: CGND (if they can win the tough battle with NMCC)
District 2: WCA.... probable tough battle with Priory
District 3: Montgomery City ?
District 4: Osage
District 5: Strafford or Ava
District 6: Eldo
District 7: Pembroke Hill
District 8: Savannah ... assuming they are in that district


Class Four:
District 1: Poplar Bluff
District 2: SLU High
District 3: Ladue
District 4: Hannibal ?
District 5: Rolla
District 6: idk ... Nixa ?
District 7: again ... idk ... Raymore Peculiar
District 8: Liberty

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Post by Jeffrey Hill » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:25 pm

KentB wrote: (Class Four)
District 7: again ... idk ... Raymore Peculiar
In recent years, that district has not been very predictable. In the five years Liberty's gone: Lee's Summit North went in 2001 and 2002, Ray-Pec in 2003, Raytown South in 2004, and Lee's Summit in 2005. In my opinion, Blue Springs seems to be the most consistent better school south of the river, but they are in district 5 with Kirksville and Helias. Lee's Summit North has lost ground over the past couple of years. Lee's Summit West is only in its second year but they are gradually looking more promising.

Oddly enough, I don't see Truman on the list either!

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:31 pm

also AJ it would of been nice instead of having all the scrolling to do to just include the link

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:46 pm

Truman High School is also missing. I presume they and William Chrisman would be back in Liberty's district.

Hopefully, Savannah's AD isn't making arbitrary budget cuts. If so, he or she should be chased out of Andrew County by tomorrow night. Sounds like something Tom should round up.

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Post by jcarkeys » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:52 pm

Kent, I'm predicting a showdown between WCA and Burroughs in our district. I read two rounds for Priory last Saturday and I was not impressed. If I remember correctly, all four of their starters graduated which is a bit of a blow.

And how big of a school is Savannah, I don't think I've ever heard.

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Post by George Clooney » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:36 pm

We're close to identical in size with WCA. I think WCA may be a tad larger or smaller... I can't remember.

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Post by DeckardCain » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:38 pm

Yes, Viburnum was stuck in the infamous "three defending champions in the same district" last year. As bad as they looked at UMR, though, I'm pretty sure it doesn't make any difference what district they're in.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:19 pm

I think the only thing the district will change is can Vib. break 100 points for the day

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:41 pm

George Clooney wrote: We're close to identical in size with WCA. I think WCA may be a tad larger or smaller... I can't remember.
How many Certs moments occurred today with Savannah's omission?

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Post by ajax » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:59 pm

Class 1
Saxony Lutheran
TJ
St. Elizabeth
North Shelby
Norborne
Macon County
King City
Mound City

Class 2
Bernie
Richland
New Bloomfield
South Shelby
Osceola
McAuley
Barstow
East Buchanan

Class 3
Notre Dame (Cape Girardeau)
Westminster Christian
Macon
Linn
Ava
El Dorado Springs
Pembroke Hill
Savannah

Class 4
Poplar Bluff
St. Louis Univ. High
Ladue
Ft. Zumwalt West
Rock Bridge
Kickapoo
Ray-Pec
Liberty, why not? Camp can coach...

Bold denotes champion, Italics denotes 2nd place

I changed some of my illogical picks to some of Kent's picks, b/c he knows bigger schools better than I do.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:10 pm

When did kickapoo add QB?

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Post by DeckardCain » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:38 pm

They had it my senior year... we beat them by over 200 at Nixa.

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Post by KentB » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:49 pm

AJ .... Festus, south pemiscot, and Koshkonong .... noooo lol ... Poplar Bluff was the only team other than Savannah, Ladue, Dunbar (KY), and Eldo Springs to beat us and I think they are returning their good player. However, Sikeston put up good numbers in the KVO or whatever .... actually I will change my vote to Central I think but they will lose at state.

And South Pemiscot lost their team (Lauren Rose) so they will most likely suck next year.


And as for Class one District one ... Saxony Lutheran will win that hands down. They still have their key players from last year when they were one of the best teams in the area. They were consistently in the top 4 at the tournaments we went to and gave Bell City a hard time. Now that Travis Eakin is gone from BC, they should have no trouble.

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:59 am

When the heck did Rockhurst field a team? They are always listed but I've never seen them play.

Another thing, are multipliers and doubling populations for single-gender schools really necessary for academic competition? Honestly, one brain at Rockhurst does not equal 2.7 brains at Rock Bridge.

Granted, such a change could shift certain schools up a class.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:54 pm

standard mshsaa rule across the board for all activities. You should know by now that MSHSAA doesn't make rules that only apply for certain sports

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Post by ajax » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:04 pm

KentB wrote: AJ .... Festus, south pemiscot, and Koshkonong .... noooo lol ... Poplar Bluff was the only team other than Savannah, Ladue, Dunbar (KY), and Eldo Springs to beat us and I think they are returning their good player. However, Sikeston put up good numbers in the KVO or whatever .... actually I will change my vote to Central I think but they will lose at state.

And South Pemiscot lost their team (Lauren Rose) so they will most likely suck next year.


And as for Class one District one ... Saxony Lutheran will win that hands down. They still have their key players from last year when they were one of the best teams in the area. They were consistently in the top 4 at the tournaments we went to and gave Bell City a hard time. Now that Travis Eakin is gone from BC, they should have no trouble.
Kent, Hume rarely played good teams, mostly local teams no competition except St. E, it is hard to pick larger schools which I have no clue about.

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:12 pm

East Buc & UMR wrote: standard mshsaa rule across the board for all activities. You should know by now that MSHSAA doesn't make rules that only apply for certain sports
You sure? There's only one class for debate. Maybe the new executive director will be privy to the idea.

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Post by KentB » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:14 pm

hehe .. I was just responding to my most knowledgable area ... District 1 ... for all the others, I was just guessing .

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:08 pm

If you read how they break down the class for sports you will learn that one... the multiplier however is a rule that governs every sport including debate

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:46 pm

The multiplier is useless in debate - everyone is in the same class.

Honestly, given the fact that the multiplier only helps small public schools and does nothing to cap the perceived recruiting potential of large private schools, I would only support the multiplier as long as it kept Savannah in Class 3. If it comes to the point where there won't be enough schools to keep them down there (I.E. Savannah truly becomes a suburb of Kansas City's second-largest Missouri suburb) or Savannah's growth stifles when everyone else is rising, hence keeping them comfortably in Class 3, the multiplier is useless in northwest Missouri's Class 4 districts.

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Post by ajax » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:14 pm

L-Town Expatriate wrote:
Hopefully, Savannah's AD isn't making arbitrary budget cuts. If so, he or she should be chased out of Andrew County by tomorrow night. Sounds like something Tom should round up.
I hope Savannah goes to districts, what a waste of God-given talent if they don't !!!

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:56 pm

I will second that, so long as it's Class 3. Else, the world will not be the same.

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Post by KentB » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:41 pm

" the world will not be the same" ... yeah ... it would be much better for everyone else :-P

We could have done a lot better last year at state without them in Class 3 :-P.

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:48 am

Yes, I'm that selfish, but it also keeps quiz bowl's large-class district 8 from emulating football's large-class district 8. (Although district 7 doesn't have one national juggernaut waiting to pounce on you in sectionals.)

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Post by ajax » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:37 pm

Any one else going to make picks?

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Post by AC160 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:21 am

I will come January for a few districts.

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Post by ajax » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:16 am

KentB wrote: AJ .... Festus, south pemiscot, and Koshkonong .... noooo lol ... Poplar Bluff was the only team other than Savannah, Ladue, Dunbar (KY), and Eldo Springs to beat us and I think they are returning their good player. However, Sikeston put up good numbers in the KVO or whatever .... actually I will change my vote to Central I think but they will lose at state.

And South Pemiscot lost their team (Lauren Rose) so they will most likely suck next year.


And as for Class one District one ... Saxony Lutheran will win that hands down. They still have their key players from last year when they were one of the best teams in the area. They were consistently in the top 4 at the tournaments we went to and gave Bell City a hard time. Now that Travis Eakin is gone from BC, they should have no trouble.
I changed alot of my crappy picks.

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:07 pm

They aren't crappy until April. They're just too early to determine.

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:21 am

MSHSAA updated district assignments this week, and Savannah is listed.

This counts as your heads-up. Seven up.

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Post by ajax » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:59 am

L-Town Expatriate wrote: MSHSAA updated district assignments this week, and Savannah is listed.

This counts as your heads-up. Seven up.
Got it and revised my picks.









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