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2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A 
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Post 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
What up bloods?

As is become tradition, I will be conducting a midseason poll. This will be used to determine a ranking of the top 10 teams in the state, as voted by you!

Your directions:
Send me an email at charlie16@gmail.com with a list, numbered 1 through 10, of who you believe the 10 best teams in the state are at the present time, regardless of class size.
Please do not: submit unranked lists of 10 teams, submit ballots where you have teams tied for a particular spot, submit ballots that are actively excluding teams that you may suspect are in the top 10 simply because you haven't seen them play or whatever, or ballots that are not good faith attempts to really rank the top 10, or submit the ballot to me anywhere but my email account charlie16@gmail.com. If you submit ballots with these problems, I will send you an email asking you to correct them and resend them, or I will withhold the right to throw out the ballots. I haven't ever had to resort to that before, so we should be fine.
Send me your ballots by midnight on January 5th please.


Last edited by Charlie Dees on Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:01 am, edited 1 time in total.



Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:55 pm
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll!!!
The following tournaments have had different schools' A teams play in them from Missouri, so feel free to use these as ranking criteria.

University of Illinois Earlybird Tournament (Oct. 15th) - used OLEFIN set housewritten by TJHSST. Only Missouri teams attending were Rock Bridge A and B.
http://www.ihssbca.org/statistics/2011_ ... ndings.php

Tuscumbia Fall Academic Tournament (Oct. 15th) - used SCOP Novice set. Was limited to players that had not attended nationals, but included teams like Richland that were their full teams.
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/96/

Missouri Fall Academic Tournament at MU (Oct. 22nd) - used NAQT IS 107. Note that Ladue's regular A team was split across their A through C teams.
http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournament ... all_games/

Clayton Quizbowl Invitational (Nov. 12th) - used NAQT IS 109. The statistics have some big errors, and the playoff pool isn't sorted properly. The top teams were Ladue A, Oakville, Helias A, Helias B, Eureka, and Fulton.
http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournament ... s/overall/

Jefferson City Bill Currie Memorial Invitational II (Nov. 19th) - used NAQT Introductory IS 110A.
http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournament ... /combined/

Tiger Bowl IV at MU (Dec. 3rd) - used HSAPQ Tournament 22.
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/40 ... all_games/

Missouri S&T Fall Tournament (Dec. 11th) - used Norcross's housewritten BDAT set.
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/80 ... all_games/


Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:14 pm
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll!!!
The Ladue B of Tiger Bowl is most representative of what Ladue B actually looks like (at MFAT, Ladue B had Ben who normally plays on A, and at Clayton it was missing some key contributors).


Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:30 pm
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
I have received 12 ballots and compiled the rankings. Without further ado:

1. Ladue A (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1) - 120 points
2. Rock Bridge A (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2) - 108 points
3. North Kansas City (4, 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7, 5, 4, 3, 4, 7) - 77 points
4. Clayton (3, 5, 5, 6, 9, 3, 4, 4, 5, 4, 6, 3) - 75 points
5. Savannah (5, 7, 4, 4, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 5, 7, 4) - 72 points
6. Parkway West (8, 3, 10, 8, 7, 10, 3, 3, 3, 8, 5, 10) - 54 points
7. Ladue B (6, 8, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 7, 10, 9, 6) - 39 points
8. Helias A (9, 9, 8, 10, 5, 9, 10, 9, 10, 7, 3, 8) - 35 points
9. Oakville (7, 10, 7, 9, 6, 9, 9, 6, 9) - 27 points
10. Rock Bridge B (10, 7, 10, 8, 7, 8, 9, 10, 5) - 25 points

Honorable mention: Liberty (4, 8, 6, 8, 8) - 21 points, Pilot Grove (6) - 5 points, Eureka (9) - 2 points

Congratulations to Ladue A and all the other teams who got ranked! I will be posting ballots later tonight.


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Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:11 am
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
Sean Philips wrote:
1 ladue a
2 rock bridge a
3 clayton a
4 savannah a
5 rock bridge b
6 ladue b
7 nkc a
8 helias a
9 oakville a
10 parkway west a

Fred Morlan wrote:
1 Ladue A
2 Rock Bridge A
3 Helias
4 North Kansas City
5 Parkway West
6 Clayton
7 Savannah
8 Liberty
9 Ladue B
10 Rock Bridge B

Jacob O'Rourke wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. NKC A
4. Clayton A
5. Savannah A
6. Oakville
7. Helias A
8. Parkway West
9. Rock Bridge B
10. Ladue B

Ben Zhang wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. Parkway West A
4. North Kansas City
5. Clayton A
6. Savannah
7. Ladue B
8. Rock Bridge B
9. Oakville
10. Helias

Me, Charlie Dees wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. Parkway West
4. Clayton
5. North Kansas City
6. Savannah
7. Rock Bridge B
8. Liberty
9. Helias
10. Ladue B

Max Schindler wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. Parkway West A
4. Clayton A
5. Savannah A
6. Liberty A
7. NKC A
8. Ladue B
9. Oakville A
10. Helias A

Michael Menkhus wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. RB A
3. Clayton A
4. Savannah A
5. NKC A
6. Oakville
7. Ladue B
8. Rock Bridge B
9. Helias A
10. Parkway West A

Jason Loy wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. Savannah
4. NKC
5. Helias
6. Ladue B
7. Parkway West
8. Liberty
9. Clayton
10. Rock Bridge B

Kisan Thakkar wrote:
1) Ladue A
2) Rock Bridge A
3) NKC A
4) Savannah A
5) Ladue B
6) Clayton A
7) Rock Bridge B
8) Parkway West A
9) Oakville
10) Helias A

Christina Whelehon wrote:
1. Ladue
2. RockBridge
3. NKC
4. Savannah
5. Clayton
6. Pilot Grove
7. Oakville
8. Helias
9. Eureka
10.Parkway West

Adam Sperber wrote:
1. Ladue A
2. Rock Bridge A
3. Parkway West
4. Liberty
5. Clayton A
6. NKC A
7. Savannah
8. Ladue B
9. Helias A
10. Oakville

Matt Chadbourne wrote:
1) Ladue A
2) Rock Bridge A
3) Clayton A
4) North Kansas City A
5) Savannah A
6) Ladue B
7) Oakville A
8) Parkway West A
9) Helias A
10) Rock Bridge B


Thanks again to all the voters!


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Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:12 am
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
ashkenaziCD wrote:
6. Parkway West (8, 3, 10, 8, 7, 10, 3, 3, 3, 8, 5, 10) - 54 points

This is very interesting- did their low ranks weigh their Tiger Bowl performance more than their MFAT performance? I do recall that they were missing 3/4 of their A team at Tiger Bowl.


Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:37 am
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
christino wrote:
ashkenaziCD wrote:
6. Parkway West (8, 3, 10, 8, 7, 10, 3, 3, 3, 8, 5, 10) - 54 points

This is very interesting- did their low ranks weigh their Tiger Bowl performance more than their MFAT performance? I do recall that they were missing 3/4 of their A team at Tiger Bowl.


Tiger Bowl probably hurt them. Also, they just haven't been playing as much as some of the other teams. That made it really hard for me to rank them accordingly. They definitely have the talent to be ranked higher, though.


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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
Yeah, I think people were probably ranking their Tiger Bowl performance heavily since they only have gone to 2 events. I voted for them to be third place because their MFAT performance was quite convincing and I think people who underranked them are going to be in for a very rude awakening whenever they have to play against their full team in the future. Time will tell, though.


Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:03 am
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Post Re: 2011-12 Midseason Poll - Congratulations Ladue A
On a related note, I just updated my rankings. They now include 150 teams, 7 of which are from Missouri.

If I had done this before I submitted my ballot, it would have been reflected by the following top ten:

Ladue A
Rock Bridge
Helias
Clayton
Parkway West
Savannah
North Kansas City
Liberty
Ladue B
Richland


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