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Post by WillHack » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:01 pm

I was reading through an old state discussion thread and the idea of a Fantasy Quiz Bowl League came up. Now, I'm not much of a fantasy person, but I thought this sounded like a great idea. So I've come up with my fantasy team for the NAQT Qualifier 2-21 @ Rolla, based on who I think will have the most PPG.

1. Charles, FHC
2. Zach, Savannah
3. Brandon, NKC
4. Nick, PCH

This assumes that we'll be there (and also, consider that I have no idea who Ladue will be sending).

Anybody else wanna give it a shot?

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Post by FishyFreshman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:03 pm

I don't know about who will actually have the most points, but if I had to pick a fantasy team...

Me
Brandon
Grant
Zach

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Post by WillHack » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:09 pm

Oh, will Liberty be there? I didn't know. I trade Brandon, NKC for Spencer, Liberty.

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:31 pm

WillHack wrote:(and also, consider that I have no idea who Ladue will be sending).
Marc can't go to the NAQT Qualifier because he has an orchestra trip - it'll be me, Jason, and some other people.

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Post by FishyFreshman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:28 pm

Liberty is not going. I was just picking a fantasy team for players I know of. And trading Brandon for me is probably not a great trade.

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Post by WillHack » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:33 pm

Well, I would have made a different team if it was just in general. I didn't particularly want to choose between Brandon and Grant in the first place, but oh well. I release Spencer and pick up Jack, Ladue off of waivers.

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Post by FishyFreshman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:37 pm

Depends on if you are trying for high points, or a team that would put up huge points. For example, if your team is already math and science heavy, you'd want Brandon. If you need math and science, go for Grant.

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Post by ELADAMO89 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:14 pm

zach
grant
charles
jack

for this saturday's tourney, not in any order, that oughta some it up though

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:57 pm

Considering NAQT, not-MSHSAA, distribution, math and science players are probably not the best bet... although more-so than if this was like, PACE, I guess. Assuming we're just going for highest PPG and not actually trying to make a team, I'll take Charles, Zach, Jason, and Brandon.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:51 am

Science players are just as helped by this distribution as literature and history players, as their percentage in NAQT sets are all equal, so I'm unsure what that comment is about.

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:31 pm

ashkenaziCD wrote:Science players are just as helped by this distribution as literature and history players, as their percentage in NAQT sets are all equal, so I'm unsure what that comment is about.
Yeah, but the math distribution goes down significantly. I should have just said math players I guess.

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:06 am

Fantasy Results:

Will: 106.43 + 78.57 + 33.33 + 19.17 = 237.5 PPG
Adam: 78.57 + 46.67 + 106.43 + 33.33 = 265 PPG
Me: 106.43 + 78.57 + 65.00 + 35.83 = 285.83 PPG

Yes! I win the fantasy pool. Suckas.

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Post by CherryCokeStain » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:19 am

Official top 4:
Charles 106 ppg
Zach 78 ppg
Brandon 65 ppg
Grant 46 ppg

With brandon and me stealing from each other. And this is only through six/seven games. Charles was power champ, 10 champ, and neg champ.

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Post by ELADAMO89 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm

wow, my name was actually mentioned in a post a couple of post ago
i'm rather amazed

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Post by WillHack » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:51 pm

Oh, I better pick a team for the upcoming Rolla tournament. Let's see. I choose:

Charles, FHC
Julia, FZW
Zach, Savannah
Spencer, Liberty

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Post by ELADAMO89 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:31 pm

yea
there's not much arguement there at all (if any)
for the small schools

me (not to seem concieted)
someone from south pemiscot
dito from houston
and one from hancock

i don't know any of their names

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Post by WillHack » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:33 pm

I debated picking up one of the NKC duo. But.

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Post by Charbroil » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:02 pm

(I can't believe I'm getting into this...)

Hmm, it depends (as someone mentioned earlier) on whether we're going for raw PPG or a well balanced team. If it's PPG:

Me (FHC)
Zach (Savannah)
Brandon (NKC)
Spencer (Liberty)

If it's a balanced team:

Me--Generalist
Julia (FZW)--Lit., Fine Arts, Trash, etc.
Grant--Math & Science
Zach--Generalist

Well, we'll just have to see...

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Post by Charlie Dees » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:04 pm

ELADAMO89 wrote:yea
there's not much arguement there at all (if any)
for the small schools

me (not to seem concieted)
someone from south pemiscot
dito from houston
and one from hancock

i don't know any of their names
Will there be a small school division? The tournament field is notably smaller than in the past, and I'm not sure the numbers would work out great.

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Post by ELADAMO89 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:27 pm

god i hope so
personally, i'm not big into playing a crap load of 4A schools

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Post by DeckardCain » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:27 pm

Yes, while the divisions may be slightly uneven, there will still be large-school and small-school divisions.

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:10 am

We should make it more interesting. Maybe pick 8 people instead of just 4?

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Post by CherryCokeStain » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:10 pm

8 person team
Charles
Zach
Spencer
Brandon
Myself
Julia (I haven't played her, but she got mentioned twice, and I trust Charles to pick well)
Let's go with Adam from Fordland
Jack Chen

I don't know enough about Missouri players to really pick 8, so 4 is better for me.
Charles, Zach, Spencer, Brandon.

Brandon is a better player than me individually, but we work well as a duo, because I know different things than him. By himself, I think he would be up around 80 a game, but I steal from him and he steals from me, so I don't think you can argue against putting Brandon in the top 4. His scores are misleading low because he has me on his team to answer a significant amount, and lower his total.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:44 pm

By himself, I think he would be up around 80 a game
At Mizzou fall for the entire day he was 98, for the prelim rounds he was 112.

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Post by FishyFreshman » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:47 pm

Hm. For an 8 person team...

Me
Grant
Brandon
Zach
Charles
Adam
Michael maybe?
Annddd I dunno Julia I guess.

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Post by FishyFreshman » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:47 pm

Lol at SJC I scored at least 100 points every game, but that was questions galore, so it's tough to compare.

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:02 pm

Ladue won't be there, will they?

Charles, FHC
Spencer, Liberty
Zach, Savannah
Julia, FZW
Grant, NKC
Brandon, NKC
Abdullah, Eureka
Adam, Fordland


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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:40 pm

CherryCokeStain wrote:Julia (I haven't played her, but she got mentioned twice, and I trust Charles to pick well)
Uhh...just to note, I picked Julia as part of a "dream team" as opposed to a Fantasy team based purely on PPG--she's an excellent player, but I did want to mention that.

P.S. Will, I'm not from Fort Zumwalt West. :P

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:13 pm

Sorry, I got you confused with Julia (ooh! Burn! jk). : P

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:26 pm

*Shrug* That's almost more of a compliment than anything else--she's actually my best friend. :D

Though I have to admit, she probably won't take your mistake is such good grace. :P

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:46 pm

Lol, I know it wasn't an insult . . . except I called you a girl! Haha! (my 3rd grade Playground Insults came back into play for a moment there).

Ultimately, though, that mistake probably deserves a spot on the "Epic Fail" thread.

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:53 pm

Okay... -_-

By the way, I'm not sure if 8 person teams are really such a good idea for this, since it's not exactly difficult to realize who the top 8 scorers at the tournament are going to be (with a variation of perhaps one or two names) because of previous results.

In contrast, only picking 4 players at least requires a basic understanding of which teams have 1 high scorer and 3 weaker ones (such as us and Savannah) and which have 2 or more high scorers (FZW, NKC, Eureka, etc.). That difference is crucial if we're working with PPG, since a powerful team like NKC might not have the highest PPGs because players take questions from one another.

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Post by carpenoctem63141 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:01 pm

Charbroil wrote:Okay... -_-

By the way, I'm not sure if 8 person teams are really such a good idea for this, since it's not exactly difficult to realize who the top 8 scorers at the tournament are going to be (with a variation of perhaps one or two names) because of previous results.

In contrast, only picking 4 players at least requires a basic understanding of which teams have 1 high scorer and 3 weaker ones (such as us and Savannah) and which have 2 or more high scorers (FZW, NKC, Eureka, etc.). That difference is crucial if we're working with PPG, since a powerful team like NKC might not have the highest PPGs because players take questions from one another.
Yeah, I thought picking 8 people might make it more interesting because most people were picking like the same 4-6 people, so picking more people would add more variance.

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:31 pm

Really? I think it actually creates less variance since the top 4 players waver quite a bit...the top 8, not so much.

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Post by AShoaib » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:20 pm

Charles, FHC
Spencer, Liberty
Zach, Savannah
Julia, FZW
Grant, NKC
Brandon, NKC
Abdullah, Eureka
Adam, Fordland
I'm surprised I made the list and Kevin didn't.

Honestly, I think the best way to see this would be to make this a "two teams against each other in the ultimate MO quizbowl game.... who is on which teams?"

Kevin and I steal alot from each other actually. He always beats me at math, and I can beat him on some Literature and misc. stuff... he tends to get the higher PPG though.

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:34 pm

Are you requesting a trade? Because I'm cutting it real close on the salary cap, and I know some guys who'd love to have you on their club. I could probably find room for Kevin, if you feel that remaining on this team is not in your best interests. . . .

: D

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:54 pm

Actually...the 1 team vs. the 2nd idea isn't all that bad. If we picked two people as "Coaches" and they took turns picking people, we could actually play a match.

Given that I came up with the idea...does anyone mind my being the first coach? Who wants to be second? (First come first serve)

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:57 pm

I'm in. I throw rock.

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:01 pm

Umm...okay? :D

I'm thinking of a number that's odd or even. Pick a number and if it's the same, you get first pick.

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:03 pm

Well, so much for my rock-paper-scissors idea.

I choose 13 Black . . . unlucky for some.

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:03 pm

13 Black?

Number was 7. Pick your first player.

Edit: Why are we subjecting everyone on the forum to this? Just log onto AIM and we can pick our teams in private. (I added you as a buddy)


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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:05 pm

Robot Wars reference, ignore me.

Quick question first . . . will the winner be determined strictly by adding up your team's total PPG and comparing it to your my team's total PPG?

Also, will we be choosing me-you-me-you-me-you-me-you or me-you-you-me-me-you-you-me?

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:06 pm

Uh, aim doesn't work for me anymore (idk why not). But I could do MSN or Facebook chat if you'd like.

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:07 pm

I'm on MSN. Message me your screename, and we can discuss all of that.

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Post by WillHack » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:23 pm

Will's team:

Charles, FHC
Spencer, Liberty
Grant, NKC
Julia, FZW

I got to pick first, in case you're wondering. : D

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Post by Charbroil » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:29 pm

Here's mine:

Zach, Savannah
Brandon, NKC
Adam, Fordland
Abdullah, Eureka.

Just to note, to offset the fact that good players on balanced (yet superior) teams obscure one another, we're putting a 1.1 multiplier on the PPG of the team which has the players with the highest number of games won.

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Post by Charbroil » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:06 am

Anyone else want to get into this? We can make this a multi way competition--all you have to do is submit a team.

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Post by NKCtrashman » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:38 pm

Here's mine:

Charles Dees, Mizzou

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Post by AShoaib » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:40 pm

I'd like to participate in this one...

I dunno, I'd put (in no specific order):
+ Charles, FHC
+ Kevin, Eureka
+ Julia, FZW
+ Spencer, Liberty

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Post by FishyFreshman » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:46 pm

I appreciate making on all these lists, but I'd pick Brandon over me. I think all around he's a better asset.

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