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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:05 pm

Does anyone out there have any experience with the UMR High School Invitational? What teams will be there or are usually there? Is Round-Robin or Double-Elimination used? Any information would be helpful!

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Post by DeckardCain » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:15 pm

It is MSHSAA format, with three swiss-paired rounds in the morning. I don't recall off the top of my head how many teams make the afternoon or how many teams are coming, but Bill should be able to help you with that.

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:18 pm

What's a Swiss-paired round? And who is Bill?

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Post by mujason » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:34 pm

Well, Swiss-paired rounds are designed to put similar-strength teams against each other (they're also used at many chess tournaments). As for who Bill is, well, that would be Bill Stallard, the man in charge of the UMR quiz bowl program.

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:42 pm

Could you give an example of two teams that might be paired? Oh yes, Bill Stallard, thanks Jason.

By the way, here is my formal introduction to this message board: I'm Warren Hays, from Eugene.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:57 pm

well we usually do a college bowl format of 20 questions 20 bonus (but we went to this due to time). Swiss paired is you get a random number lets go with a 8 team example.
round 1
1-2
3-4
5-6
7-8

lets say all odd number win

round 2
1-3
5-7
2-4
6-8

round 3
1-5(winners from round 2)
3-7
2-6
4-8

thus giving one 3-0, 3-- 2-1, 3-- 1-2 and one 0-3.

Right now we have 21 teams your coach should have a list I sent it out last week

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Post by DeckardCain » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:02 pm

Welcome to the board. We played you guys at state last year in an awesome game. (I'm Matt Chadbourne, formerly from Viburnum, now at UMR.) I see you guys are in our district this year, along with Richland.

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:06 pm

Ah, thanks for the explanation Bill (I'm guessing that's who East Buc is). I'll ask my coach for the list, but do you happen to remember any of the teams who will be there?

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Post by DeckardCain » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:09 pm

Westminster Christian and Thomas Jefferson are two I remember off the top of my head. And yes, East Buc & UMR is the one and only Bill Stallard.

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:10 pm

Hey there Matt! I certainly do remember you. That was an awesome game we played at state - only 25 points between us in the end.

And congrats on making 1st in All-State in our Class! I actually made 2nd, however that's possible, since Eugene only played 3 games and lost all.

Yes, we have an extremely tough district this year. But we'll try our best to give the other teams hell (esp Richland).

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:10 pm

Tuscumbia 1
St Elizabeth 2
Mcleur North 2
Helais 2
fatima 1
WCA 1
Pilot Grove 1
Eugene 1
Poplar Bluff 1
Carthage 1
Norwood 2
Salem 2
TJ 2
Rolla 1
Dixon 1

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:18 pm

Thanks for the list Bill. What do the numbers 1 and 2 signify?

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:27 pm

number of teams coming from that school, how many did mizzou have?

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:36 pm

Ok, thanks for clarifying. Any idea which teams will be playing one another and/or in what order?

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:45 pm

well right now we have 21 teams we will be splitting them up into small and large school (not sure who i sgonna be 12 and 11 yet depends on the splits) then we will have a single elim tournament. you will get at least 4 games

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:03 pm

Ok, cool. Which teams are large and which ones are small? Just a guess that Eugene will be considered small.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:45 pm

all depends on MSHSAA enrollments from the last cycle. They will be some schools maybe in class 2 that make it to large school, tough to say without doing the enrollments now. After I get this book read I will post what they look like now

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:58 pm

Well the bad news I forgot MCN is dropping one of their teams

Here is the break down

Large
MCleur North--1472
Rolla
Poplar Bluff
Helias
Carthage
WCA
Salem--718
Fatima--363

Small
Dixon--355
Eugene
Norwood
TJ
Pilot Grove
St Elizabeth
Tuscumbia--89

Not happy about having to place Fatima in large school, hopefully we will get another school so we can drop them down to small

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:56 pm

Do you have to have eight large schools? It just looks too egregious.

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:17 pm

Thanks for all the info. Greatly appreciated.

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Post by DavidH » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:50 pm

Why are you having your tournament on the same day as Cuba? Anyway, that sucks cuz I wish Savannah could go since WCA will be there but I think Luce already scheduled Cuba for us.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:00 pm

other way around, Cuba had no other day to run theirs.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:37 pm

Do you have to have eight large schools? It just looks too egregious.
those 8 schools count for 10 teams. there is 10 in each small and large

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Post by Octoguy » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:53 am

I've heard that the questions in this tournament are conceived by college students, is that correct?

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Post by DeckardCain » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:14 pm

Yes. The UMR team is writing the questions.

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Post by Octoguy » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:30 pm

Are they much different from other question packets, say, at District and State?

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Post by L-Town Expatriate » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:57 pm

Octoguy wrote: By the way, here is my formal introduction to this message board: I'm Warren Hays, from Eugene.
What year?

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Post by Octoguy » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:17 pm

High school senior (2005)

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:42 pm

you will have to wait and finded out










:D

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Post by Octoguy » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:17 pm

I'll take that as a yes then, Bill.









^_^

Do you guys (and girls too) have any sort of a bracket started yet?

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:51 pm

Girls hahaha that is a good one. You will know who you play the day of. Were coach will draw a number and that will be your place in the bracket. But the questions will be close to district level(hard for me to say since I have not been to one in 4 years)

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Post by Octoguy » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:01 pm

Gotcha

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:49 am

Lets play a game well two games. The first anyone that would like to read at the tournament can PM me(we can make it worth your trip). Game two guess how many rounds of questions I have 10 days before the tournament(matt you can't guess)

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Post by DeckardCain » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:18 am

East Buc & UMR wrote: Game two guess how many rounds of questions I have 10 days before the tournament(matt you can't guess)
Darn. I could get that one.

It should be +1 by Sunday, maybe earlier depending on whether I get Internet access this weekend.

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Post by JayChamp » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:11 am

Matt Mr ruck wants you to sign us up to go i hope its not to late. and how much is it with for the questions.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:26 pm

e-mail at wcsq4f@umr.edu we can work it out there

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:30 pm

what noone wants to read. and noone wants to guess as to how much Bill has this weekend

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Post by Octoguy » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:29 pm

I don't understand what you're asking or I'd guess.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:31 am

well by next saturday we need 8 packets of questions guess how many i have

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Post by JayChamp » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:20 am

Hey Matt if your helping write the questions put alot of sports questions in their so we may win. Just joking.

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Post by Octoguy » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:03 am

How about 7 packets Bill.

What do I get if I win??

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Post by Octoguy » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:39 am

Just wanted to say good luck to all teams participating tomorrow!

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Post by JayChamp » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:43 am

Thanks i hope you do well also.

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Post by Octoguy » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:45 am

Cool, Viburnum's coming too.

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:28 pm

To answer the question i posed at the time we had 2 packets.. to top it off we are still writing a fee questions

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Post by JayChamp » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:44 pm

Yeah V-town is coming too. But dont get your hopes up on having a tough competition as last year we are not as good,

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:47 pm

What did you two think?

How did you like my Sports questions Cody?

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Post by Octoguy » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:39 pm

What an awesome tournament. Still can't believe we took 1st.

I liked these questions. Nice job to all who worked on them!

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Post by East Buc & UMR » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:49 pm

any that come to mind you really liked or didn't like, to many of certain ones, not enough of other?

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Post by Octoguy » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:43 pm

All the history was good. Some of that geography was dang hard (ie. "Given a state in the United States and it's national ranking in population from the 2000 Census, name the city."), but still made me think, so I liked it.

Way too much calculus. Yuck. Cut out most of the math if ya like.

Some of those questions had to have been written just a couple days beforehand. There was a bonus set about "Goon tactics and John Chaney" or something, and I remember hearing about that only this past Friday.

Overall the questions were good.

Hey Bill, do you have an updated list of those team and individual scoring sheets taped to the wall?

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