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2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Jeffrey Hill » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:04 pm

Quick placeholder for now... I'll edit this post in the next day or two with the full details like previous years' threads.

Congratulations to Ladue and Villa Duchesne A for qualifying for both NAQT HSNCT and PACE NSC at the Missouri Fall Academic Tournament. Congratulations also go to Rock Bridge and North Shelby for also qualifying for HSNCT!

The Missouri Quizbowl Alliance encourages all teams to work towards qualifying for two high quality national tournaments, which regularly feature highly competitive fields of the nation's top teams. This post provides information about how to qualify for these tournaments, a list of qualifying tournaments, as well as a list of Missouri teams that have qualified for the 2011 iterations of these tournaments.
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NAQT High School National Championship Tournament

The 2011 NAQT High School National Championship Tournament will be held on May 27-29, 2011 in Atlanta, GA.

HSNCT Qualification Criteria
1. Finishing in the top 15% of the field at any event that uses NAQT questions.
2. Finishing as the highest-placed team at an NAQT State Championship or NAQT State Qualifier that had not qualified for the HSNCT prior to the state tournament.
3. Being the top team from a small (public) school (by NAQT's definition) at any event that uses NAQT questions, so long as the team also finishes at least tied for the median position in the overall standings. (NAQT defines a small school as one with "fewer than 500 students in grades 10-12 and a non-selective admission policy.")
4. Winning any class or division of an official state championship with rules and questions similar to those of NAQT.

While NAQT also allows qualification through wildcard bids, MSHSAA rules currently prohibit Missouri teams from attending a national tournament on a wildcard bid. Full details about qualifying for HSNCT are available on NAQT's website.

HSNCT Fees/Discounts
* Base fee (on or before April 29): $575; (after April 29) $595 [If you first qualify after April 1 the cutoff date is May 9]
* Buzzer systems: -$30 per system, each team may claim up to two such discounts. Lockout systems will be tested at check-in, and those that don't have at least eight functioning buzzers will be denied the discount.
* Qualified, experienced scorekeeper: -$75 discount. This scorekeeper will not necessarily scorekeep for his or her school's matches; he or she will be assigned as the tournament director sees fit. Also, a team claiming this discount must still have at least one adult coach/chaperone with the team at all matches.

HSNCT Qualifiers already held
* Missouri Fall Academic Tournament [18 teams] on October 16, 2010. (Qualified: Ladue, Villa Duchesne, Rock Bridge, North Shelby)
* St. Louis University Academic Competition [12 teams] on October 30, 2010. (Qualified: Oakville, Villa Duchesne)
* Parkway District Tournament [8 teams] ended on November 9, 2010. (Qualified: Parkway West A, Parkway West B)
* Pacific Invitational [15 teams] on December 18, 2010. (Qualified: SLUH, Rolla, Salem)
* Truman sKnow Bowl [24 teams] on January 8, 2011. (Qualified: Truman, Liberty, Smithville, Lee's Summit North)
* Richland New Year [22 varsity, 30 total] on January 8, 2011. (Qualified: Helias A, Eureka, Richland, Heartland, Glendale, Helias B, Kickapoo, Parkview)
* Poplar Bluff Invitational [10 teams] on January 8, 2011. (Qualified: Poplar Bluff, Cape Central)
* Bell City Invitational [12 teams] on January 15, 2011. (Qualified: Cape Central, Notre Dame Cape Girardeau)
* Washington Invitational [30 teams] on January 15, 2011. (Qualified: SLUH, Parkway North, De Smet, Rolla, Francis Howell, Pacific, Parkway South, Warrenton)
* Southwest Invitational [6 teams] on January 29, 2011. (Qualified: Fordland)
* Villa Duchesne Invitational [24 teams] on February 19, 2011. (MO teams qualified: Ladue, Priory, SLUH)
* Lion's Legacy [10 teams small school; 13 teams large school; 42 total] on February 19, 2011. (Qualified small school: Pilot Grove, Maryville, Cameron; large school: Savannah, Park Hill South, Truman, Lee's Summit North)
* NAQT Missouri Qualifier [21 teams] on March 5, 2011. (Qualified: Savannah, Helias, Rock Bridge, Villa Duchesne, Centralia)
* Fordland Invitational [8 varsity; 12 total] on March 5, 2011. (Qualified: Fordland, Seymour)
* Savannah Invitational [18 teams] on March 12, 2011. (Qualified: Park Hill South, Truman, NKC, Cameron)
* Missouri S&T Spring Tournament [11 teams small school; 12 teams large school] on March 19, 2011. (Qualified small school: Richland, Fordland; large school: Ladue, Rock Bridge)

Conference tournaments already held on NAQT questions
* Mark Twain Conference [5 teams] on November 19, 2010. (Qualified: Everton)
* Frisco League [4 teams] on January 15, 2011. (Qualified: Richland)
* Clarence Cannon Conference [10 teams] on January 29, 2011. (Qualified: Centralia, Clark County)
* South Central Association [5 varsity; 11 total] on February 17, 2011. (Qualified: Salem, Mountain Grove)
* I-70 Conference [6 teams] on February 26, 2011. (Qualified: Santa Fe)
* North Central Missouri Conference [6 teams] on March 5, 2011. (Qualified: Kirksville)
* Midland Empire Conference [6 varsity; 11 total] on March 8, 2011. (Qualified: Savannah, Cameron, Maryville, Smithville)
* Gateway Athletic Conference [7 teams] on March 12, 2011. (Qualified: Francis Howell, Fort Zumwalt North)
* Four Rivers Conference [7 teams] on March 12, 2011. (Qualified: Sullivan, New Haven)
* Eastern Missouri Conference [11 teams]. (Qualified: Orchard Farm, Clopton)
* Southwest Central League [8 teams]. (Qualified: Clever, Sparta, Spokane, Forsyth)
* Tri-County Conference [6 teams]. (Qualified: Eldon, Versailles)

Missouri Teams Qualified for HSNCT
* Cameron (at Lion's Legacy, Midland Empire Conference, Savannah) [small school eligible]
* Cape Central (at Poplar Bluff, Bell City)
* Centralia (at Clarence Cannon Conference, NAQT Qualifier) [small school eligible]
* Clark County (at Clarence Cannon Conference) [small school eligible]
* Clever (at Southwest Central Conference) [small school eligible]
* Clopton (at Eastern Missouri Conference) [small school eligible]
* De Smet (at Washington)
* Eldon (at Tri-County Conference) [small school eligible]
* Eureka (at Richland New Year)
* Everton (at Mark Twain Conference) [small school eligible]
* Fordland (at Southwest, Fordland, S&T Spring) [small school eligible]
* Forsyth (at Southwest Central Conference) [small school eligible]
* Fort Zumwalt North (at Gateway Athletic Conference)
* Francis Howell (at Washington, Gateway Athletic Conference)
* Glendale (at Richland New Year)
* Heartland (at Richland New Year)
* Helias A (at Richland New Year, NAQT Qualifier)
* Helias B (at Richland New Year)
* Kickapoo (at Richland New Year)
* Kirksville (at North Central Missouri Conference)
* Ladue (at Missouri Fall, Villa Duchesne, S&T Spring)
* Lee's Summit North (at Truman HS, Lion's Legacy)
* Liberty (at Truman HS)
* Maryville (at Lion's Legacy, Midland Empire Conference) [small school eligible]
* Mountain Grove (at South Central Association) [small school eligible]
* New Haven (at Four Rivers Conference) [small school eligible]
* North Kansas City (at Savannah)
* North Shelby (at Missouri Fall) [small school eligible]
* Notre Dame (Cape Girardeau) (at Bell City)
* Oakville (at SLU)
* Orchard Farm (at Eastern Missouri Conference) [small school eligible]
* Pacific (at Washington)
* Park Hill South (at Lion's Legacy, Savannah)
* Parkview (at Richland New Year)
* Parkway North (at Washington)
* Parkway South (at Washington)
* Parkway West A (at Parkway District Tournament)
* Parkway West B (at Parkway District Tournament)
* Pilot Grove (at Lion's Legacy) [small school eligible]
* Poplar Bluff (at Poplar Bluff Invitational)
* Priory (at Villa Duchesne)
* Richland (at Richland New Year, Frisco League, S&T Spring) [small school eligible]
* Rock Bridge (at Missouri Fall, NAQT Qualifier, S&T Spring)
* Rolla (at Pacific, Washington)
* SLUH (at Pacific, Washington, Villa Duchesne)
* Salem (at Pacific, South Central Association) [small school eligible]
* Santa Fe (at I-70 Conference) [small school eligible]
* Savannah (NAQT Qualifier Champion; also at Matt Cvijanovich Memorial Tournament, Lion's Legacy, Midland Empire Conference)
* Seymour (at Fordland) [small school eligible]
* Smithville (at Truman HS, Midland Empire Conference)
* Sparta (at Southwest Central Conference) [small school eligible]
* Spokane (at Southwest Central Conference) [small school eligible]
* Sullivan (at Four Rivers Conference)
* Truman (at Truman HS, Lion's Legacy, Savannah)
* Versailles (at Tri-County Conference) [small school eligible]
* Villa Duchesne (at Missouri Fall, SLU, NAQT Qualifier)
* Warrenton (at Washington)

Missouri Teams Registered for HSNCT -- Current field
* Eureka
* Ladue
* Liberty
* North Kansas City
* North Shelby [small school eligible]
* Park Hill South
* Rock Bridge
* Savannah
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PACE National Scholastics Championship

The 2011 PACE National Scholastics Championship will take place on June 4 and 5 at Northwestern University in Evanston, IL.

NSC Qualification Criteria
The top 2 teams from any affiliated tournament of fewer than 20 teams, the top 4 teams from any affiliated tournament of 20 to 39 teams, and the top 8 teams from any affiliated tournament of 40 or more teams, receive automatic qualification to the 2009 PACE NSC. More teams may qualify if the event is gold- or platinum-certified.

While PACE also allows qualification through wildcard bids, MSHSAA rules currently prohibit Missouri teams from attending a national tournament on a wildcard bid. Full details about qualifying for NSC are available on PACE's website.

NSC Fees and Discounts
* Base fee: $500 per team
* Automatic qualifier discount: -$25 per applicable team (all eligible teams from Missouri qualify for this discount since MSHSAA doesn't allow wildcard bids)
* Gold qualifier discount: -$50 per applicable team
* Platinum qualifier discount: -$75 per applicable team
* Buzzer systems: -$10 each per school, no limit
* Staffers: -$50 each per school, max 2 per school
* Hosting a gold-certified tournament: -$10 each per tournament, no limit
* Hosting a platinum-certified tournament: -$20 each per tournament, no limit
* Early payment discount: -$25 from total fee for paying by March 15

NSC Qualifiers already held
* Missouri Fall Academic Tournament [18 teams] on October 16, 2010. (Qualified: Ladue, Villa Duchesne)
* St. Louis University Academic Competition [12 teams] on October 30, 2010. (Qualified: Oakville, Villa Duchesne)
* Bill Currie Memorial Tournament [12 teams] on November 13, 2010. (Qualified: Rock Bridge (B), Helias)
* Tiger Bowl III [29 teams, gold certified] on December 4, 2010. (Qualified: Ladue A, Clayton, Jefferson City, Rock Bridge, Ladue B, Parkway West)
* Missouri S&T Fall Tournament [14 teams, gold certified] on December 11, 2010. (Qualified: Clayton, Savannah, Richland, Oakville)
* Columbia-Area After School Invitational [6 teams] on January 19, 2011. (Qualified: Rock Bridge A, Rock Bridge B)
* NAQT Missouri Qualifier on March 5, 2011. (Qualified: Savannah, Helias, Rock Bridge, Villa Duchesne)

Expected to be NSC qualifiers
* WUHSAC XIII on January 29, 2011.
* Mort Walker Invitational on February 12, 2011.
* Villa Duchesne Invitational on February 19, 2011.
* North Kansas City Varsity Invitational Tournament on February 26, 2011.
* Savannah Invitational on March 12, 2011.
* Missouri S&T Spring Tournament on March 19, 2011.
* Oakville Spring Academic Tournament on March 26, 2011.
* Ladue Invitational Spring Tournament on April 2, 2011.

Missouri Teams Qualified for NSC
* Clayton (at Tiger Bowl III, S&T Fall)
* Helias (at Bill Currie Memorial Tournament, NAQT Qualifier)
* Jefferson City (at Tiger Bowl III)
* Ladue A (at Missouri Fall, Tiger Bowl III)
* Ladue B (at Tiger Bowl III)
* Oakville (at SLU, S&T Fall)
* Parkway West (at Tiger Bowl III)
* Richland (at S&T Fall)
* Rock Bridge A (at Bill Currie Memorial Tournament, Tiger Bowl III, Columbia-Area After School Invitational, NAQT Qualifier)
* Rock Bridge B (at Columbia-Area After School Invitational)
* Savannah (at S&T Fall, NAQT Qualifier)
* Villa Duchesne (at Missouri Fall, SLU, NAQT Qualifier)

Missouri Teams Registered for NSC -- Current field
Clayton
Helias
Jefferson City
Oakville
Parkway West
Rock Bridge A
Rock Bridge B
Villa Duchesne
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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by ChippytheSavage » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:11 am

Savannah won in Iowa State this weekend, qualifying us for NAQT Nationals. WE went 11-1 and won the finals over Ames A if anyone was curious. It was pretty fun actually.

Results:
http://www.stuorg.iastate.edu/quiz/even ... dings.html

I think we might have qualified for PACE too, but I am not sure. (?)
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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by octo » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:40 pm

Helias and Rock Bridge should qualify for PACE NSC based on the tournament I held this weekend, I believe.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Jeffrey Hill » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:30 pm

Finally got this updated... sorry for the delay.

In addition to the mentions above, congratulations to Oakville for qualifying for HSNCT and NSC at the St. Louis University Academic Competition on October 30. Villa Duchesne qualified for both tournaments once again at this tournament.


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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by dtaylor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:28 pm

Re: Iowa State and Jefferson City qualifiers

I have been told that Jefferson City will be in the next round of tournaments the certification committee votes on, and will press for ISU to be on that list as well.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:11 am

To teams that have qualified for the NAQT HSNCT, you can already register for it. The link is at http://naqt.com/registration/field.jsp? ... nt_id=3351

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Jeffrey Hill » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:56 pm

I'm really bad at keeping this up to date this year... :(

For Tiger Bowl III on December 4, I'll just quote Charlie's post from the Tiger Bowl thread:
ashkenaziCD wrote:I am pleased to announce that this tournament is officially the first tournament ever held in Missouri to be awarded Gold certification by PACE. This means that Ladue A, Clayton A, Jefferson CIty, Rock Bridge A, Ladue B, and Parkway West A will receive bids to the National Scholastics Championship at Northwestern University on June 4th and 5th. These teams are also able to register for the NSC on January 1st, which is earlier than teams with regular bids, and they will get a $50 discount from their entry fee. Congratulations to these teams, you all did an incredible job to warrant our gold status. It's a true sign that the quality of the circuit here is improving incredibly quickly.
In addition, pending confirmation of PACE affiliation, Savannah has qualified for PACE NSC for the first time at the Missouri S&T Fall Tournament on December 11! Clayton qualified once more for NSC at this tournament.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:25 am

All the gold certified teams (Ladue A, Clayton A, Jefferson City, Rock Bridge A, Parkway West A, Ladue B, Savannah, Richland A, and Oakville) can register for the NSC as soon as they want. The registration information is at this link - http://pacensc.wufoo.com/forms/2011-pac ... istration/

Additionally, on January 15th the teams with multiple bids to the NSC but none from a gold tournament can register. I believe Villa Duchesne is the only such team in Missouri right now.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:19 pm

Woo, Rock Bridge is registered for PACE.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by CentraliaCoach » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:38 pm

Centralia and Clark County qualified for the HSNCT at the Clarence Cannon Conference Tournament

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:20 pm

From here on out, all teams with bids to PACE can register.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by PenforPrez » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:26 am

St. James is scheduled to run an NAQT Missouri format set tomorrow. I'll try to see if I can get some results from that.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by octo » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:22 pm

According to Facebook, I'm pretty sure that tournament is not happening.

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Post by PenforPrez » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:02 pm

octo wrote:According to Facebook, I'm pretty sure that tournament is not happening.
I hadn't heard anything. What did you see?

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Acceleration » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:48 pm

I do know that they missed school all week if that says anything.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Acceleration » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:53 pm

Sorry for double posting, but the event is canceled for tomorrow. It's on the school's website.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by octo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:17 pm

Also, for teams that intend to sign up for the NSC but haven't done so yet, it's worth mentioning that paying before (on?) March 1 gives a $25 discount.

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Post by PenforPrez » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:12 pm

According to Chad Kubichek, Liberty has signed up for HSNCT. :)

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Post by dtaylor » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:34 am

octo wrote:Also, for teams that intend to sign up for the NSC but haven't done so yet, it's worth mentioning that paying before (on?) March 1 gives a $25 discount.
If the check is in the mail by March 1, I'll grant the discount.

Also, Parkway West is in, putting the field up to 39 teams.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:04 pm

In better news, Helias is now added to the field of the PACE NSC. That's 5 teams to PACE, the most we've ever had before at PACE was 1.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:15 am

Rock Bridge B is now the first B team from Missouri that has registered for nationals.

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Post by Jeffrey Hill » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:13 pm

Discussion of the 14 tournament limit split to here.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:31 pm

We are tied with Kentucky as having the 2nd most teams in the field at PACE. If 2 more teams sign up we'll be the state with the most teams in the field. If you were interested in registering, you should do so before the end of the month so you can claim your early registration discount.

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Post by scphilli » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:40 pm

Priory qualified for both yesterday at Villa Duchesne, and SLUH is now qualified for NSC.

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Post by Charlie Dees » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:18 am

Oakville is now going to the NSC!

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Post by dtaylor » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:00 pm

As it stands, there are only 12 slots left for the NSC, and they're going pretty quickly.

EDIT: updated. Field's filling up quick, folks.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:28 am

Forgot to note that Villa Duchesne is in the field.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:51 am

North Shelby seems to have taken their HSNCT bid.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by ChippytheSavage » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:20 pm

We have now signed up for HSNCT.

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Post by Mewto55555 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:44 pm

So has Ladue.

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Post by PHSouth » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:24 pm

Park Hill South had a meeting today. We have decided to register for HSNCT in Atlanta!

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Post by Charlie Dees » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:27 pm

It sounds like Rock Bridge A is going too.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Mewto55555 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:39 pm

How are y'all getting down (those of you who go to HSNCT)? We're considering driving, and we've floated the idea of sharing a big bus with other teams if they would be willing to split the costs.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:20 pm

Just a reminder to all teams that they should consider this event pretty strongly - http://moquizbowl.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2191
Pre-Nationals last year was great fun and I expect it to be even better this year, but we need more teams to make that happen. This is your chance to shake off rust before nationals (especially if you don't make it out of districts), after all.

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Post by ChippytheSavage » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:04 pm

PHSouth wrote:Park Hill South had a meeting today. We have decided to register for HSNCT in Atlanta!
Yay! More KC-area teams! I think you guys will do pretty good. It's tons of fun. Isnt this PHS's first year at HSNCT?

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Post by dtaylor » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:22 pm

Mewto55555 wrote:How are y'all getting down (those of you who go to HSNCT)? We're considering driving, and we've floated the idea of sharing a big bus with other teams if they would be willing to split the costs.
If this gets steam, I'd be willing to go in on this.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by bruins4life » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:42 pm

Max, Rock Bridge is interested in looking into the coach bus possiblility. Do you have any idea on costs?

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Post by Charlie Dees » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:57 pm

Rock Bridge and NKC registered for HSNCT.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by PHSouth » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:39 am

Park Hill South is officially registered for the HSNCT!

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:13 pm

bruins4life wrote:Max, Rock Bridge is interested in looking into the coach bus possiblility. Do you have any idea on costs?
I tried to get quotes and costs for this were shockingly expensive, especially if we can't fill a 56-person bus (which we won't be able to do). I doubt this will be worth it.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Charlie Dees » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:24 pm

Eureka is now in the field of the HSNCT! They had a field expansion, so people should sign up.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by dtaylor » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:45 pm

ashkenaziCD wrote:
bruins4life wrote:Max, Rock Bridge is interested in looking into the coach bus possiblility. Do you have any idea on costs?
I tried to get quotes and costs for this were shockingly expensive, especially if we can't fill a 56-person bus (which we won't be able to do). I doubt this will be worth it.
Daggumit. Meh, I need the week off anyway to finish NSC prep.

PS: There have been a couple drops in the past few days, so there is ample space. If you're worried about cost, you can apply to be a standby team.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by DeckardCain » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:25 pm

Heartland is in the process of signing up for HSNCT.

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Re: 2011 Nationals bids thread

Post by Mewto55555 » Mon May 09, 2011 7:21 pm

Hopefully this is the right thread in which to post this; Ladue is bringing exactly one girl to the HSNCT, which is an awkward number. Are there any other teams in a similar situation who would like to combine forces to save money and have our players share a room?

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