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for those not following along at mshsaa.org:

Class 1
SEMIFINALS, 1:30 p.m.
(1) St. Joseph Christian vs. (4) North Shelby
(2) Pilot Grove vs. (3) Thomas Jefferson Indep.

Class 2
SEMIFINALS, 1:30 p.m.
(1) Richland vs. (4) Purdy
(2) Schuyler County vs. (3) Plattsburg

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7 for 8 on the seeds so far.

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Congrats to TJ (by 10 points in the final; exciting) and Richland (12th time, dear Lord...).

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The scores....man I'm going to be sick....we played Richland better than anyone at this tournament. This is so dumb.

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Yes, you guys would have most likely finished second in class 2A. We substituted very liberally, with all eight of our players getting in games.

Logan was the high scorer in class 2A with 61 questions answered in 5 games. Brian finished in the top eight, also.

Ian (from Plattsburg) was impressive, especially as a freshman.

Good luck to all of you seniors at Fordland.

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Ford08 wrote: The scores....man I'm going to be sick....we played Richland better than anyone at this tournament. This is so dumb.
I am going to have to agree, you guys gave us the closest game in class 2.

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Congrats guys on #12.

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Looking at the 4A results through round 2, it looks like a 1-2 team is going to make playoffs. And the potential for utter chaos in 3A.

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Class 3
(1) Savannah vs. (4) Priory
(2) Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) vs. (3) Hallsville

Class 4
(1) North Kansas City vs. (4) Ladue Horton Watkins
(2) Kirksville vs. (3) Eureka

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I don't think I've ever seen it happen where after the three prelims, there were seven teams that were at least 1-2 with one of those 1-2 teams making the playoffs because of points. I certainly have never seen it happen TWICE in the same tournament. If you ever needed harder empirical proof that this system of preliminary play does not necessarily select the top 4 teams for playoffs and is insanely arbitrary, I'd be hard pressed to find a better example.

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Congrats to Notre Dame and NKC for taking home the State Championships!

I was shocked to see that Savannah lost in the semis as well. Awesome job to David, James, Christy, Stephen, and whoever else I forgot that is on the ND team.

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scphilli wrote: I don't think I've ever seen it happen where after the three prelims, there were seven teams that were at least 1-2 with one of those 1-2 teams making the playoffs because of points. I certainly have never seen it happen TWICE in the same tournament. If you ever needed harder empirical proof that this system of preliminary play does not necessarily select the top 4 teams for playoffs and is insanely arbitrary, I'd be hard pressed to find a better example.
I can't speak for Class 3, but I think amusingly, the top 4 teams in Class 4 did end up making it to semifinals, despite really strange prelim rounds.

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How did Savannah lose? Priory beat them?










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Congrats to all the winners today! This was the first State tournament I've missed since 1995; sounds like I missed a good one.










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Speaking of State...

Hot damn Ravi. You're awesome.

I love how we got closer to beating second seed than we were to beating 4th in the PM rounds. In the morning, we were just 30 shy of beating Ladue... ah well, c'est la vie. It was my first state tourney, and I'm impressed.

I got 4th place individual (12 in the last game against Ladue).

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This was the first state tournament I've missed since 2003... I was tempted to drive up this morning, but decided against it at the last minute. Congrats to the winners.

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DeckardCain wrote: This was the first state tournament I've missed since 2003... I was tempted to drive up this morning, but decided against it at the last minute. Congrats to the winners.
I wound up having to work. It's OK; I'm busting my gluteus maximus for a raise right now.









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about state in general... WOW.
AShoaib wrote:Hot damn Ravi. You're awesome.

I love how we got closer to beating second seed than we were to beating 4th in the PM rounds.
lol... if it's any consolation, that was my best game today, and probably all season. It was also very close (specifically, tied) until we got several questions in a row at the end.

Also, it's kind of misleading to refer to Ladue as the "4th seed." I thought they'd beaten us in the first round until I saw the score sheet, and anyone's seeding would suffer after playing NKC.

Congrats to everyone, especially winners.

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FWIW, i would have to agree that Ladue, the 1-2 team, actually did deserve to be in the top 4 (especially after hearing they beat Eureka). I mean, they lost to the 1st and 2nd best team in the tournament, so I think it shockingly actually ended up fair. I might have more to post later.

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what were the individual ranks/scores for class IV?

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mprablek wrote: what were the individual ranks/scores for class IV?
I haven't seen them; hopefully someone will post a full list soon.

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It was also very close (specifically, tied) until we got several questions in a row at the end.
Yeah.... 80-70 first quarter, and then after that, we were almost always within 30-40 points. By far, my favorite game of the tournament. Ladue v. Eureka (AM) comes in a close second.

Ladue had the worst draw. Ever. Playing the 1st, 2nd, and 4th team at State would have obviously hurt their PPG.

Seriously though: how did Savannah lose to Priory? Mr. Gibbs and I discussed this, and he was completely baffled. A Priory kid was all "Oh, Savannah was overrated- they played easy teams. Terin always buzzed in early and got it wrong...". Gibbs and I agreed that the kid had no idea what he was talking about. Was anyone watching? Maybe a Savannah/Priory member can shed some light?

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Oh, Savannah was overrated- they played easy teams.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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ashkenaziCD wrote:
Oh, Savannah was overrated- they played easy teams.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Just further justification to the idea that no matter what you think the preordained result will be, you should always play the games. Good things can happen, like Terin buzzing in and getting it wrong often enough to wreck the overall result. Or you get that lucky packet full of things you know very well.

Incidentally this makes what 8 different schools to win the 3A title, significantly more than any of the other classes iirc.

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mprablek wrote: what were the individual ranks/scores for class IV?
I thought I had them here with me at school but left them at home. I will post them soon.

Marc,

You were 3rd. I will have to mail your medal to you since you all did not stay around to pick it up.

1. Charles (NKC)
2. Ravi (Kirksville)
3. Marc (Ladue)
4. Abdullah (Eureka)
5. Laura (Kirksville)
6. Sam (Blue Springs)
7. Kevin (Eureka)
8. Josh (Central)

Well done by all. I think Grant (NKC) just needed two more questions in the final game. I think he finished with 35 total (7 AVG) with Josh averaging 7.33/game.

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Do you happen to have how many Brandon Roney got?

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ashkenaziCD wrote: Do you happen to have how many Brandon Roney got?
He had 4, 1, 4, 1, 2 = 12 (2.4 AVG).

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TMCE - would you mind renaming the thread title to "2008 State" or something like that?

--EDIT--
March 25, 2009: I didn't find them posted anywhere else, so here are the scores copied from MSHSAA's website for archival. Edited this post so I wouldn't bump the topic all the way to the top.

CLASS 1
Friday, May 2
at University of Missouri-Columbia

FIRST ROUND, 9:30 a.m.
Thomas Jefferson Indep. 305, Bradleyville 160
Pilot Grove 280, St. Elizabeth 110
Lutheran (Kansas City) 270, North Shelby 195
St. Joseph Christian 315, Stanberry 165

SECOND ROUND, 10:30 a.m.
Pilot Grove 240, Bradleyville 150
Thomas Jefferson Indep. 285, St. Elizabeth 95
St. Joseph Christian 305, Lutheran (Kansas City) 175
North Shelby 220, Stanberry 105

THIRD ROUND, 11:30 a.m.
North Shelby 225, Bradleyville 170
St. Joseph Christian 270, St. Elizabeth 145
Thomas Jefferson Indep. 245, Lutheran (Kansas City) 180
Pilot Grove 340, Stanberry 145

** FINAL PRELIMINARY STANDINGS**
1. St. Joseph Christian 3-0 (890 pts.)
2. Pilot Grove 3-0 (860)
3. Thomas Jefferson 3-0 (835)
4. North Shelby 2-1 (640)
5. Lutheran (KC) 1-2 (625)
6. Bradleyville 0-3 (480)
7. Stanberry 0-3 (415)
8. St. Elizabeth 0-3 (350)

SEMIFINALS, 2:00 p.m.
(1) St. Joseph Christian 295, (4) North Shelby 145
(3) Thomas Jefferson Indep. 260, (2) Pilot Grove 240
THIRD PLACE, 3:30 p.m.
(2) Pilot Grove 250, (4) North Shelby 125
CHAMPIONSHIP, 3:30 p.m.
(3) Thomas Jefferson Indep. 215, (1) St. Joseph Christian 205
Thomas Jefferson (25-3) claims its sixth state title and fourth in a row.

*****

CLASS 2
Friday, May 2
at University of Missouri-Columbia

FIRST ROUND, 9:30 a.m.
South Pemiscot 245, Valley Park 220
Schuyler County 245*, Elsberry 245 (tie breaker)
Richland 415, Purdy 135
Plattsburg 240, St. Paul Lutheran 145

SECOND ROUND, 10:30 a.m.
Schuyler County 230, South Pemiscot 200
Valley Park 220, Elsberry 180
Richland 365, Plattsburg 140
Purdy 270, St. Paul Lutheran 205

THIRD ROUND, 11:30 a.m.
Purdy 235, South Pemiscot 155
Plattsburg 260, Elsberry 115
Richland 315, Valley Park 115
Schuyler County 255, St. Paul Lutheran 150

(*) Won tie-breaker

** FINAL PRELIMINARY STANDINGS**
1. Richland 3-0 (1095 pts.)
2. Schuyler County 3-0 (730)
3. Plattsburg 2-1 (640)
4. Purdy 2-1 (640)
5. South Pemiscot 1-2 (600)
6. Valley Park 1-2 (555)
7. Elsberry 0-3 (540)
8. St. Paul Lutheran 0-3 (500)

SEMIFINALS, 2 p.m.
(1) Richland 400, (4) Purdy 155
(3) Plattsburg 275, (2) Schuyler County 250
THIRD-PLACE, 3:30 p.m.
(2) Schuyler County 300, (4) Purdy 155
CHAMPIONSHIP, 3:30 p.m.
(1) Richland 340, (3) Plattsburg 195
Richland (64-7) wins its 12th state title and sixth in a row
*****

CLASS 3
Saturday, May 3
at Rock Bridge HS, Columbia

FIRST ROUND, 9:30 a.m.
Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 345, Priory 235
Hallsville 270, Centralia 250
Salem 220, East Newton 160
Savannah 375, Oak Grove 170

SECOND ROUND, 10:30 a.m.
Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 370,0 Hallsville 200
Centralia 265, Priory 260
Savannah 400, Salem 190
Oak Grove 370, East Newton 110

THIRD ROUND, 11:30 a.m.
Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 390, East Newton 95
Savannah 450, Centralia 155
Priory 380, Salem 225
Hallsville 335, Oak Grove 230

** FINAL PRELIMINARY STANDINGS**
1. Savannah 3-0 (1225 pts.)
2. Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 3-0 (1105)
3. Hallsville 2-1 (805)
4. Priory 1-2 (875)
5. Oak Grove 1-2 (770)
6. Centralia 1-2 (670)
7. Salem 1-2 (635)
8. East Newton 0-3 (365)

SEMIFINALS, 2 p.m.
(4) Priory 335, (1) Savannah 315
(2) Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 370, (3) Hallsville 220
THIRD-PLACE, 3:30 p.m.
(1) Savannah 445, (3) Hallsville 165
CHAMPIONSHIP, 3:30 p.m.
(2) Notre Dame (Cape Gir.) 400, (4) Priory 260

Notre Dame (50-1) wins its first state title

*****

CLASS 4
Saturday, May 3
at Rock Bridge HS, Columbia

FIRST ROUND, 9:30 a.m.
Eureka 335, Central (Cape Gir.) 200
Kirksville 355, Ladue Horton Watkins 320
Hickman 275, Kickapoo 240
North Kansas City 460, Blue Springs 140

SECOND ROUND, 10:30 a.m.
Kirksville 495, Central (Cape Gir.) 240
Ladue Horton Watkins 330, Eureka 315
North Kansas City 485, Hickman 285
Blue Springs 345, Kickapoo 170

THIRD ROUND, 11:30 a.m.
Central (Cape Gir.) 325, Kickapoo 230
North Kansas City 490, Ladue Horton Watkins 280
Eureka 380, Hickman 305
Kirksville 410, Blue Springs 265

** FINAL PRELIMINARY STANDINGS**
1. North Kansas City 3-0 (1435 pts.)
2. Kirksville 3-0 (1260)
3. Eureka 2-1 (1030)
4. Ladue Horton Watkins 1-2 (930)
5. Hickman 1-2 (865)
6. Central (Cape Gir.) 1-2 (765)
7. Blue Springs 1-2 (750)
8. Kickapoo 0-3 (640)

SEMIFINALS, 1:30 p.m.
(1) North Kansas City 400, (4) Ladue Horton Watkins 260
(2) Kirksville 390, (3) Eureka 315
THIRD-PLACE, 3:30 p.m.
(4) Ladue Horton Watkins 420, (3) Eureka 300
CHAMPIONSHIP, 3:30 p.m.
(1) North Kansas City 450, (2) Kirksville 300

North Kansas City (76-7) wins its sixth state title.


<div class="editby">Edited by <a href='http://s4.zetaboards.com/Academic_Compe ... /88961/'>U. Lou Sthagaim</a>, Mar 25 2009, 10:56:02 AM.</div>

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Tight, sorry about leaving early, I think our coach's colleague is retiring and there was an event to celebrate (is retirement something you celebrate?) that.

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I also find it amusing that the top scorers 1st - 4th are from the teams that finished 1st-4th, respectively.

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All-State teams have been posted on the MACA site: http://moaca.org/tournaments/0708/state.php

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As captain, Laura often asked her teammates on boni that we didn't know to "pick your favorite" item from a category named in the question. For example, for a bonus about a president, she might say, "Pick your favorite president." This sometimes became a joke (for example, "Pick your favorite fascist dictator.") The best one I've ever heard was at state this year: "Pick your favorite Croatian geologist." Or something like that. STPickrell, do you by any chance have the original question?

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Was it like Mohorovicic?

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I think so. I saw his page on Wikipedia and didn't recognize anything that might have been a clue until I clicked on "Mohorovičić discontinuity" and found out what that is. It looks familiar.

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It's an insanely common topic in quizbowl and in earth science, which is why I'm so surprised you didn't/don't know it. Basically its a gap inbetween the mantle and the crust.

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Post by FishyFreshman »

THE MOHO!!!! Has become one of those answers that our whole team knows and bursts out laughing when it comes up. Blame Dobson.

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FishyFreshman wrote: Blame Dobson.
i make it a practice to always blame dobson.

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ashkenaziCD wrote:It's an insanely common topic in quizbowl
Well, this (question 13) makes two Moho references I've seen in 4+ years of quizbowl. Is that "insanely common"?









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