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- Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:00 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: Missouri Fall Academic Tournament (10/10/09)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 25704
Missouri Fall Academic Tournament (10/10/09)
This tournament was amazing! I've never had such a great time, excepting the fact that by the end of the day, I felt like I'd run a marathon. XD Ladue has a crazy solid team. Between Zev, Zack, and Sam, they can get pretty much anything. And they're all in the same grade as me (junior), so they sti...
- Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:49 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: 2009 End of Season Team Poll: Congratulations NKC
- Replies: 33
- Views: 4066
2009 End of Season Team Poll: Congratulations NKC
Who are you guys returning next year?WillHack wrote:This is a bit premature, but for next year, I think the top teams will include PCH, Clayton, NKC, and Savannah.
Also, Charlie, will Adam Sperber be a senior next year? For some reason I thought he was graduating this year.
- Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:26 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: MSHSAA bidding discussion
- Replies: 77
- Views: 11820
MSHSAA bidding discussion
I always loved getting Forbis as a moderator, because I would just make nerdy D&D jokes with him all the time.scphilli wrote:And with that comparison of QB to D&D, we have hit a new level of nerdy as a message board. Wow.
- Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:12 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: MSHSAA bidding discussion
- Replies: 77
- Views: 11820
MSHSAA bidding discussion
Sorry, this is kind of tangential, but why is probability not "actual important calculation?"Charbroil wrote:with less probability like in NAQT and more actual important calculation, please
- Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:22 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
Maybe they could have studied purring, though?ashkenaziCD wrote:Last I checked, Wilmington Charter did not study quinces to win both national titles.
- Tue May 12, 2009 7:41 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
If the issue is that computation speed does not necessarily correlate with math knowledge, why not replace MSHSAA's current like 8/8 computation and 2/2 theory distribution with 10/5 theory, 0/5 computation? This at least solves the problem of buzzer races. However, how is the hypothetical proposed ...
- Tue May 12, 2009 3:12 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
How is it a non sequitur? You continue to call for MSHSAA to change how it handles quizbowl, and chastise Mr. Gibbs for not getting it done. If he happened to tell you to shut up because you clearly have no idea how to work with a bureaucracy, how is that not analogous to what you just tried to tell...
- Tue May 12, 2009 2:43 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
Charlie, how would you respond if somebody like Coach Gibbs told you that your opinion was essentially meaningless and not even worth arguing against because you had no "currency" built up in working with a bureaucracy like MSHSAA? You begin your post by saying you agree that experience is...
- Tue May 12, 2009 2:07 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
Was it where I acknowledged you had more experience than we did, or where I said there was some merit to the importance of experience, but that it wasn't a trump card?ashkenaziCD wrote:Yes I did. You should be able to figure out from that what it is I am bothered by from you.
- Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
Did you even read what I wrote?ashkenaziCD wrote:tl; dr
- Tue May 12, 2009 12:26 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
That we lack experience? That we neglect the importance of experience? That we're trying to ram our preferences down your throat? If it's that we don't have as much experience as you guys do, that's a given. If it's that we neglect the importance of experience, maybe so in your opinion, but I don't ...
- Tue May 12, 2009 12:13 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
What specifically is your comment?ashkenaziCD wrote:Not really, I think my comment is relevant to everything the three of you have posted no matter what it is about.I think you also risk generalizing our views here.
- Tue May 12, 2009 12:01 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
I'm not going to lie that I have some very real misgivings with how experience is not being factored into this equation. The people who keep arguing that computation has no place in good quizbowl by a pretty large majority are those of us that have the most experience with good quizbowl and are com...
- Mon May 11, 2009 11:27 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
Yeah, I definitely understand how somebody could have been fooled there. That being said, I don't think there is any particular reason why one should assume that the next term is a constant. It's not as if the question said to "take the derivative of this polynomial," and thus it would be ...
- Mon May 11, 2009 10:52 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
As you can see MUCH more information is being communicated in the theory question as opposed to the calculation question. And it is using the information in a way that rewards the person with the most in-depth knowledge in the first sentence, something the calculation question simply can't do. It r...
- Mon May 11, 2009 10:01 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
To clarify my point: 1) Marc proposed a solution to make math q's less of a buzzer race and therefore justify math calc's existence in the distribution. 2) I stated that Marc's solvency had been attempted by some of the foremost experts on mathematics in quizbowl (NAQT) who are more eminently quali...
- Mon May 11, 2009 9:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
Doing "research" to make questions take 10 seconds is precisely what NAQT tried to do this is nice, but doesn't actually say what the problem was. It does if you read the rest of the post, instead of cherry picking statements and quoting them out of context to try to prove a point. You se...
- Mon May 11, 2009 9:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
- Replies: 83
- Views: 26325
The computation discussion post-MSHSAA State
I don't know how this question went down, but if it was a hose, that seems to be more based on a moderator ambiguously pausing than actually being written as a hose.U. Lou Sthagaim wrote:Questions Galore HOSE wrote:Calculate the derivative of 4x<sup>2</sup>-7x-ln(x)
- Mon May 11, 2009 4:48 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
I'm pretty sure Clayton went to Wash U and Cuba my junior year, but I think ended up on the other end of both brackets from us or something so we never played them. Also, this is the first year for sectionals Josh, so Clayton would have had to lose districts. I do suspect that over the next 2 years...
- Mon May 11, 2009 4:46 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: things that suck...
- Replies: 623
- Views: 442191
things that suck...
Asdfjkl; AP Physics Mechanics.
- Sun May 10, 2009 9:25 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
Calm down, the reason that some people question your ability is simply because of the lack of quality tournaments on your resume. There's no real way to compare Ladue to the rest of the state. I think you guys would compare favorably, if. I'm pretty calm right now. Lack of quality tournaments playe...
- Sun May 10, 2009 8:52 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
What, have you guys been going to QG tournaments without me?PaxHispanica wrote:I don't know what you're talking about, jack, we go to QG tournaments all the time!
Man, and I love beating my head into the desk because of bad questions!
- Sun May 10, 2009 8:49 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
Yeah, my statement still stands...scphilli wrote:I think he meant in practice.
- Sun May 10, 2009 8:34 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25980
2009 MSHSAA State Tournament Discussion
As the Ben Stein moderator so correctly put: "At this point, there are no winners." Congratulations to Ladue, they clearly spent more time playing QG than we did. However, I believe the NAQT state qualifier holds far more legitimacy, and I hope more schools attend it next year, so there w...
- Fri May 08, 2009 2:58 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA Sectional/State Predictions
- Replies: 104
- Views: 20642
2009 MSHSAA Sectional/State Predictions
To address one of the few things that has not already been covered, Mr. Gibbs, I don't understand why you used William Sun as an example. For the short time that William played, math wasn't even a major focus for him. Furthermore, he quit quizbowl because he didn't think it was worth his time. I do...
- Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:55 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: Missouri Top 100 Scholars
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6298
Missouri Top 100 Scholars
Spencer thinks he's so cool, getting his community service project quoted...FishyFreshman wrote:Good stuff.
- Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:19 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA Sectionals Discussion
- Replies: 56
- Views: 17417
2009 MSHSAA Sectionals Discussion
That's Marc from Ladue.
- Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:21 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA Sectionals/State RESULTS
- Replies: 56
- Views: 14906
2009 MSHSAA Sectionals/State RESULTS
Class 4, Section 3 (District 5 vs. District 6)
Ladue 350, Parkway Central 215
Ladue 390, Parkway Central 285
Ladue 350, Parkway Central 215
Ladue 390, Parkway Central 285
- Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:31 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Epic Win thread
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2760
Epic Win thread
Dang, I guessed Johnson for the Smith one too... creepy.FishyFreshman wrote:I guessed Smith on the first two then Johnson for the one that was Smith. Epic fail.
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:41 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA Districts Results
- Replies: 84
- Views: 347031
2009 MSHSAA Districts Results
Class 4, District 16
<mib_4vqkax>: go someone can put up that district 14(?) was Savannah (1) Kearney(2) Platte County(3) Excelseor Springs(4) and the finals was Savannah 350 Kearney 215
<mib_4vqkax>: go someone can put up that district 14(?) was Savannah (1) Kearney(2) Platte County(3) Excelseor Springs(4) and the finals was Savannah 350 Kearney 215
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:11 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Most important quetion
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1311
Most important quetion
Correction: Express your answer as a decimal. Make sure you multiply by pi and e.richbob wrote:Question 4: The city of Gdansk is located in this country along the Baltic Sea. If 2/3 of its citizens are members of the Solidarity Labor Union, how many of the people in Latvia have children playing soccer?
- Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:09 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: 2009 MSHSAA Districts Results
- Replies: 84
- Views: 347031
2009 MSHSAA Districts Results
Class 4, District 5 Round 1: Villa 220, DeSmet 200 Ladue 455, Viz 145 CBC 400, Chaminade 60 Round 2: Viz 230, Villa 195 Ladue 400, CBC 245 WCA 305, Chaminade 120 Round 3: DeSmet 280, Viz 200 Ladue 505, Chaminade 15 CBC 260, WCA 205 Semis: Ladue 500, Villa 145 DeSmet 355, CBC 145 Finals: Ladue 415, D...
- Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:33 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: College destinations
- Replies: 70
- Views: 11732
College destinations
Seniors from Ladue:
Marc Prablek is going to Princeton, I'm going to Duke, Jason Bell is going to Columbia, Tim Pulisetty is going to UChicago (I think), and Caleb Ping is going to New England Conservatory.
Marc Prablek is going to Princeton, I'm going to Duke, Jason Bell is going to Columbia, Tim Pulisetty is going to UChicago (I think), and Caleb Ping is going to New England Conservatory.
- Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:45 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: More math computation stuff
- Replies: 37
- Views: 6492
More math computation stuff
Man, but the moderator keeps saying boring stuff while I'm trying to do the math! Totally throws me off, every time.Charbroil wrote:If all math computation tossups were written like this, I would want to keep them in the Missouri distribution.
- Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:01 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
Okay... -_- By the way, I'm not sure if 8 person teams are really such a good idea for this, since it's not exactly difficult to realize who the top 8 scorers at the tournament are going to be (with a variation of perhaps one or two names) because of previous results. In contrast, only picking 4 pl...
- Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:10 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
We should make it more interesting. Maybe pick 8 people instead of just 4?
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:02 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
- Replies: 106
- Views: 12070
NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
*shrug* It's the same process used in single-elimination playoffs. Take the example of DeSmet this year. After #8 FHC defeated #1 PCH in the first round of the playoffs, both teams were 3-1. PCH's PPG was, I believe, significantly higher than FHC's, but that made no difference; FHC advanced, PCH we...
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:24 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
- Replies: 106
- Views: 12070
NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
Lol...if you did, what would your null hypothesis be? That Zach's distribution is the same as mine? :D Actually, that would be an interesting thing to consider--are you going to do that, Jeffrey? *Edit--never mind. And Jack, that actually isn't true for this tournament--Zach's PPG actually increase...
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:50 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
- Replies: 106
- Views: 12070
NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
This confirms my original observation, though to clarify, that observation was "Charles against championship teams" isn't as strong as "Charles in general". I would guess that is true for anybody... The better your opponent, the more likely they are to get a tossup before you. I...
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:36 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
- Replies: 106
- Views: 12070
NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
Nah--thanks for the support, Jack, but we played against FHC B too, so that's not really the reason. I did make an egregious number of mistakes--hence the 24 negs I got (more than those of every other entire team ...except yours. :D ) True, but I was more addressing the issue of consistency. Idk. P...
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:20 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
- Replies: 106
- Views: 12070
NAQT Missouri Qualifier at Missouri S&T - 2/21/09
One thing I immediately saw in the stats - when considering only intra-playoff bracket games, Zach from Savannah barely edged out Charles as top scorer; at a glance this implies that Zach is more consistent no matter the opponent, while Charles isn't quite as strong against teams of similar strengt...
- Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:06 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
Fantasy Results:
Will: 106.43 + 78.57 + 33.33 + 19.17 = 237.5 PPG
Adam: 78.57 + 46.67 + 106.43 + 33.33 = 265 PPG
Me: 106.43 + 78.57 + 65.00 + 35.83 = 285.83 PPG
Yes! I win the fantasy pool. Suckas.
Will: 106.43 + 78.57 + 33.33 + 19.17 = 237.5 PPG
Adam: 78.57 + 46.67 + 106.43 + 33.33 = 265 PPG
Me: 106.43 + 78.57 + 65.00 + 35.83 = 285.83 PPG
Yes! I win the fantasy pool. Suckas.
- Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:31 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
Yeah, but the math distribution goes down significantly. I should have just said math players I guess.ashkenaziCD wrote:Science players are just as helped by this distribution as literature and history players, as their percentage in NAQT sets are all equal, so I'm unsure what that comment is about.
- Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
Considering NAQT, not-MSHSAA, distribution, math and science players are probably not the best bet... although more-so than if this was like, PACE, I guess. Assuming we're just going for highest PPG and not actually trying to make a team, I'll take Charles, Zach, Jason, and Brandon.
- Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:31 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Fantasy Quiz Bowl
- Replies: 104
- Views: 27177
Fantasy Quiz Bowl
Marc can't go to the NAQT Qualifier because he has an orchestra trip - it'll be me, Jason, and some other people.WillHack wrote:(and also, consider that I have no idea who Ladue will be sending).
- Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:30 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Mid-season poll: Congratulations North Kansas City
- Replies: 44
- Views: 4289
Mid-season poll: Congratulations North Kansas City
What about Winnetonka? Did they graduate their best players or something?
- Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:03 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: MSHSAA District Assignments Today
- Replies: 102
- Views: 35277
MSHSAA District Assignments Today
I agree with most of your predictions, Charles. I really want to see Ladue in action sometime this year, before I make any judgments. For D7/8, I say Francis Howell Central . For D13/14, I have no idea, but I certainly hope it isn't Lee's Summit West For D15/16, I say Savannah , although it's basic...
- Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:04 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: Two Saints Conference
- Replies: 220
- Views: 24994
Two Saints Conference
I agree that, unfortunately, Two Saints is less indicative because of this year's questions. In our loss to Marquette, which you'll understand was quite a shock to our system, we missed out on most of the silliest questions. I felt confident that we had more knowledge than they did, but we were ver...
- Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:19 am
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: Two Saints Conference
- Replies: 220
- Views: 24994
Two Saints Conference
Understood. If he doesn't mind, could you ask him how he did on the USAMO?Charbroil wrote:He's one of only 500 individuals who qualified to take the AMC USAMO (USA Math Olympiad) test last year, and one of only about 5 from Missouri. That isn't a perfect evaluation, but I think it's a realistic evaluation.
- Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:41 pm
- Forum: Tournament Announcements and Discussion
- Topic: Two Saints Conference
- Replies: 220
- Views: 24994
Two Saints Conference
I'm kinda curious, what exactly does this mean?Charbroil wrote:My math specialist is one of the top ten high school mathematicians (as officially ranked) in the State of Missouri